Tuesday, September 01, 2009
There was a letter to the editor in the New York Times yesterday:
What an insane, paternalistic point of view. Anyone intelligent enough to read this letter should be offended by it. Poor law students! They used to have so many employment choices! Good grief! First of all, no matter how you feel about law firms, how can you possibly make the argument that a law firm job, at $160K/year, is worse than no job, poverty, and sitting in front of your computer all day desperately sending out resumes? Second of all, is there a SHORTAGE of lawyers for all these other amazing jobs that this guy wants lawyers to find? No! The places people can find rewarding employment? Those jobs are already filled! And when there's a vacancy, you know who ought to get them? The people who would have wanted them enough in the first place not to be seduced by the lure of a law firm job that wasn't right for them. Why should an abundance of choice be blamed for people making bad choices. People who make bad choices deserve the outcomes they get. People who are intelligent enough to get into law school should be intelligent enough to live with the consequences of their decisions. If you can be swayed to come work for a law firm, you deserve the law firm life. And if we hire you even though you won't like it here, we deserve to have you, and to have to deal with you complaining all day.
Here's the problem. What about the law students at "non-elite" schools, who don't have these choices, and have long had to do what this author says. Who had to use their intelligence and resourcefulness to find a job. These graduates who have long been "able to make ends meet."
Well, they're shit out of luck now, because all of those jobs they really wanted are going to be snapped up by "elite" law school graduates who'd rather be working at firms. So all these jobs that probably ought to be filled by people passionate about doing them (instead of just upset they can't work for a law firm and settling for an inferior backup choice) will be filled by the "elite" and everyone else can go sit on the unemployment line.
Taking away choices is great! Law firms are worse than poverty! The recession has vanquished evil from the face of the Earth!
Ridiculous.
By taking away the possibility of easy employment in high-paying jobs, the economic downturn may end up helping the current crop of law students.
Very few law students at elite schools make meaningful explorations of the broad array of career choices available to law school graduates. Instead, lured by prestige and a high salary, they march through on-campus interviews to large urban law firms, where a great many end up leading unfulfilled lives.
As the jobs with large salaries disappear, law students will draw on the thoughtfulness, intelligence and perseverance that got them into law school in the first place in order to find employment that they actually find rewarding. They will also find creative ways to pay their loans and other expenses.
Most law graduates already do not expect a starting salary of $160,000 and yet are able to make ends meet. Graduates of elite schools will adjust to the new financial realities and come out better for it.
What an insane, paternalistic point of view. Anyone intelligent enough to read this letter should be offended by it. Poor law students! They used to have so many employment choices! Good grief! First of all, no matter how you feel about law firms, how can you possibly make the argument that a law firm job, at $160K/year, is worse than no job, poverty, and sitting in front of your computer all day desperately sending out resumes? Second of all, is there a SHORTAGE of lawyers for all these other amazing jobs that this guy wants lawyers to find? No! The places people can find rewarding employment? Those jobs are already filled! And when there's a vacancy, you know who ought to get them? The people who would have wanted them enough in the first place not to be seduced by the lure of a law firm job that wasn't right for them. Why should an abundance of choice be blamed for people making bad choices. People who make bad choices deserve the outcomes they get. People who are intelligent enough to get into law school should be intelligent enough to live with the consequences of their decisions. If you can be swayed to come work for a law firm, you deserve the law firm life. And if we hire you even though you won't like it here, we deserve to have you, and to have to deal with you complaining all day.
Here's the problem. What about the law students at "non-elite" schools, who don't have these choices, and have long had to do what this author says. Who had to use their intelligence and resourcefulness to find a job. These graduates who have long been "able to make ends meet."
Well, they're shit out of luck now, because all of those jobs they really wanted are going to be snapped up by "elite" law school graduates who'd rather be working at firms. So all these jobs that probably ought to be filled by people passionate about doing them (instead of just upset they can't work for a law firm and settling for an inferior backup choice) will be filled by the "elite" and everyone else can go sit on the unemployment line.
Taking away choices is great! Law firms are worse than poverty! The recession has vanquished evil from the face of the Earth!
Ridiculous.
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Crap.
Oh well, back to billing...
Crap.
Oh well, back to billing...
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This may actually lead to an actual use for non-elite law school graduates who previously ended up in the public sector.
Those people can be used as mulch for the firm's polo grounds in Montecito.
It's the only humane thing to do - public sector starting salaries are only $50-$60K if you didn't go somewhere decent. Put them out of our misery, and have greener polo grounds. No downside.
--JRM
This may actually lead to an actual use for non-elite law school graduates who previously ended up in the public sector.
Those people can be used as mulch for the firm's polo grounds in Montecito.
It's the only humane thing to do - public sector starting salaries are only $50-$60K if you didn't go somewhere decent. Put them out of our misery, and have greener polo grounds. No downside.
--JRM
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Out of law school and into a job? 160,000 a year? You guys don't know how good you've had it. Here in Spain a lawyer (even with great marks) considers themselves lucky if they can get an established law firm to take them on for no salary!!
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In February 2010, Barbara and I moved from Huntington, West Virginia to Evansville, Indiana. I enrolled Anna in the EVSC school system at Fairlawn Elementary School (EXHIBIT A) while we stayed with relatives and searched for housing. We began renting a house in Newburgh (EXHIBIT B) and mutually agreed it would be in Anna’s best interest to keep her at Fairlawn Elementary where she had a stable environment and had bonded with her teachers and fellow students. This stability further provided a safe environment for Anna after school at her Grandmother’s while we worked (EXHIBIT C). Additionally, this alleviated the need for after school programs or day care in the event Anna was sick. Barbara continued to enjoy her independence away from her mother and enjoyed working at God is good, leaving the bankruptcy and foreclosure behind. Though frustrated from our falling on hard times she didn’t regret leaving her job at Autism Services despite a large pay cut, but blamed me for everything. When she became aware that I had briefly returned to Huntington for a West Virginia drivers license in order to continue concealed carry, as Indiana doesn’t honor out of state permits once residency is acquired, IC 35-47-2-21(b), (EXHIBIT D) she contrived a story that I was leaving her and Anna for a gun and nurtured the fabrication on facebook (EXHIBIT E). On June 1st we mutually agreed Barbara would write a letter to Graybill Properties insisting we vacate the premises effective immediately because of substandard living conditions (EXHIBIT F) and on June 2nd, we moved into a house in Henderson, Kentucky (EXHIBIT G).
In early June Barbara opened her own personal checking account. She began decreasing her deposits into our joint account from $221.00 weekly, to contributing nothing. She began depositing her entire payroll, $339.80 weekly, into her personal account (EXHIBIT H). This resulted in multiple overdrafts on our joint account (EXHIBIT I), which was reminiscent of her earlier personal overdrafts in Huntington with her personal checking account which I had no access to (EXHIBIT J), while my unemployment income paid rent, utilities, and insurance (EXHIBIT K). She informed me on July 25th that she had retained an attorney and later disclosed her mother was paying for it. Barbara closed our joint account in a fit of rage in September (EXHIBIT L), a week after disconnecting my cell phone on September 20, 2010. In the conversation with AT&T she informed the operator, “My husband and I are getting a divorce and I don’t want to pay his portion of the bill,” laughing afterwards. In late July it became obvious that Barbara was seeking the affection of someone else. She had begun an exercise regiment, bought contact lenses, and checked out 4 books at the library (EXHIBIT M), 1.) “The 10-second kiss” 2.) “Love signals: a practical field guide to the body language of courtship”, 3.) “Mars and Venus starting over: a practical field guide to finding love after a painful breakup, divorce, or the loss of a loved one” 4.) “A celebration of sex.”
In a handwritten note found at home she states, “I will not be responsible for Matthew’s medical bills” (EXHIBIT N), (EXHIBIT O). On October 11, 2010 Barbara put a deposit on an apartment at Canterbury House Apartments (EXHIBIT P) effectively vacating the established family home and began moving pictures and furniture out of our home at 4 Barnett Drive on Saturday October 16th and Sunday October 17th. On October 16th, Barbara put a down payment on a Simmons mattress totaling $746.86 listing the delivery address as 7177 Outer Lincoln Avenue (EXHIBIT Q). While it’s obvious that Barbara wants to reinvent herself, part of marriage is being mature enough to honor vows-for better or worse, richer or poorer...and not cutting and running when times get tough, especially when a child is involved. Ideally, if a parent can put their selfish ambitions aside, what’s in the best interest of the child is to have mom and dad under the same roof. On October 22nd, Barbara was shown a letter from my brother Mark reflecting his concerns for Anna’s well being and Barbara’s attempts to alienate Anna from me (EXHIBIT R). After sharing this information and her reaction, I became concerned for mine and Anna’s safety and removed the knives and tools from the house. On Saturday October, 23rd Barbara took Anna to her new Apartment and removed clothes, toiletries, dishes, and other personal belongings from the house in Henderson, Kentucky as she did last weekend. On Sunday the 24th she continued removing items that are shared property and transporting them to her apartment in Newburgh. Additionally, on Sunday she admitted she’d called Rick Epperly in Huntington and asked him to terminated our joint term life insurance policy and added she would purchase her own insurance, after her closing our joint checking account caused a lapse in the policy as the payment was electronically debited (EXHIBIT S).
. On October 25th I received a confirmation Change-of-Address letter (PS Form 3575) from the US Postal Service confirming Barbara had changed her permanent address dated October 22, 2010 (EXHIBIT T).
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On Tuesday October 26th I kept Anna home from school. On Monday October 25th, while Anna had a substitute teacher, another student named Raven yelled at Anna, apparently devastating her to the point that she refused to go to school on Tuesday at all. I left a message with the school counselor Mrs. Bunch, sent a note to Anna’s teacher Mrs. Harpenau (EXHIBIT U), and shared this information with Barbara. Tuesday evening after returning home from work Barbara entered the front door while Anna played on the living room floor and said, “It’s the school skipper! Hi ya school skipper!” effectively blaming Anna for Mondays bullying incident in which Anna was the victim. Later in the evening I addressed this with Barbara and she insisted I was spinning the situation for my own purposes. On Thursday October 28th, I informed Barbara that Anna was insured under the KyHealth Choices plan and included medical, vision, dental (including braces), and pharmacy with no co-pay (EXHIBIT V). She became resentful and would not discus the issue further as I had always kept Anna insured (EXHIBIT X). On Friday October 29th I informed her the registration on both vehicles would expire on November 1st, as I had several times earlier in the month (EXHIBIT Y). I also shared with her that I had contacted Property Management to let them know my unemployment was directly deposited and wouldn’t be available until November 2nd, making the rent payment due on the 1st late. Barbara insisted she had no money and would donate plasma Saturday October 30th, a day after she deposited $436.05 to her personal checking account (EXHIBIT Z). She also offered that her mother would be making our November van payment, probably so she would have a cancelled check from her mother to bring to court, while she appears broke but pays her rent. On Saturday October 30th she informed me she passed out while donating plasma and that, at one point the nurse said she didn’t have a pulse. Barbara was sick the rest of the day and apathetic to compromising her own health to appear financially strapped for legal positioning, something clearly not in Anna’s best interest.
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csios here in Calgary ab Canada hounds me 24-07 sound devive and rcmp ,me Sammy mcloughlin ,joan crockett mp knows has done nothing to help me ask her why 403-2441880,csis are trying to get me behind closed doors ,csis had Richard kovac of bude in cornwall try to frame me up by selling me hand guns ,ask lee walklin about the guns,i live out side here in Calgary ab Canada refused welfare ,cops hound me 24-7 to force me to become a nark and lie about the guns and human experiments with sound device help em .
403-2441880 joan crockett I am sure has helped csis,i told her that csis were hounding me she asked me if I was on meds which other people have said for csis,david eby mla knows wally opal lied to me for csis and helped them,gail Davidson lawyer 13th ave Vancouver bc lied to me for csis I am sure ,hello is any ond fucking out there doing anything about this torture with sound 24-7 I am from Plymouth devon uk I live out side rcmp hound sm set up for weed by csis I went to court and got a 230 fine .an agent did this in Calgary ab Canada the true north my ass.
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zerzetsen di centre calgary canada contact mp kent hehr he helped csis and did nothing fr me sammymcloughlin ne505944b csis wnats me to weork for them i refuse this and will never bow to these freak sick canadians .
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Personal conduct orders
These are orders to stop specific acts against everyone named in the restraining order as a “protected person.” Some of the things that the restrained person can be ordered to stop are:
Contacting, calling, or sending any messages (including e-mail);
Attacking, striking, or battering;
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Destroying personal property; or
Disturbing the peace of the protected people.
Stay-away orders
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The protected person or persons;
Where the protected person lives;
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Other important places where he or she goes.
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He or she will not be able to go to certain places or to do certain things.
He or she might have to move out of his or her home.
It may affect his or her ability to see his or her children.
He or she will generally not be able to own a gun. (And he or she will have to turn in, sell or store any guns they have now and not be able to buy a gun while the restraining order is in effect.)
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In general restraining orders can include:
Personal conduct orders
These are orders to stop specific acts against everyone named in the restraining order as a “protected person.” Some of the things that the restrained person can be ordered to stop are:
Contacting, calling, or sending any messages (including e-mail);
Attacking, striking, or battering;
Stalking;
Threatening;
Sexually assaulting;
Harassing;
Destroying personal property; or
Disturbing the peace of the protected people.
Stay-away orders
These are orders to keep the restrained person a certain distance away (like 50 or 100 yards) from:
The protected person or persons;
Where the protected person lives;
His or her place of work;
His or her children’s schools or places of child care;
His or her vehicle;
Other important places where he or she goes.
Residence exclusion (“kick-out” or “move-out”) orders
These are orders telling the restrained person to move out from where the protected person lives and to take only clothing and personal belongings until the court hearing. These orders can only be asked for in domestic violence or elder or dependent adult abuse restraining order cases.
For the person to be restrained, having a restraining order against him or her can have very serious consequences:
He or she will not be able to go to certain places or to do certain things.
He or she might have to move out of his or her home.
It may affect his or her ability to see his or her children.
He or she will generally not be able to own a gun. (And he or she will have to turn in, sell or store any guns they have now and not be able to buy a gun while the restraining order is in effect.)
It may affect his or her immigration status if he or she is trying to get a green card or a visa.
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is an order used by a court to protect a person, business, company, establishment, or entity, and the general public, in a situation involving alleged domestic violence, child abuse, assault, harassment, stalking, or sexual assault. In the United States, every state has some form of domestic violence restraining order law, and many states also have specific restraining order laws for stalking and sexual assault.
Restraining and personal protection order laws vary from one jurisdiction to another but all establish who can file for an order, what protection or relief a person can get from such an order, and how the order will be enforced. The court will order the adverse party to refrain from certain actions or require compliance with certain provisions. Failure to comply is a violation of the order which can result in the arrest and prosecution of the offender. Violations in some jurisdictions may also constitute criminal or civil contempt of court.
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is an order used by a court to protect a person, business, company, establishment, or entity, and the general public, in a situation involving alleged domestic violence, child abuse, assault, harassment, stalking, or sexual assault. In the United States, every state has some form of domestic violence restraining order law, and many states also have specific restraining order laws for stalking and sexual assault.
Restraining and personal protection order laws vary from one jurisdiction to another but all establish who can file for an order, what protection or relief a person can get from such an order, and how the order will be enforced. The court will order the adverse party to refrain from certain actions or require compliance with certain provisions. Failure to comply is a violation of the order which can result in the arrest and prosecution of the offender. Violations in some jurisdictions may also constitute criminal or civil contempt of court.
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